This would likely cause concord to aggro to us as well and therefore reduce our insurance payout to zero, would it not? I considered and ECM burst build like this as well but it would also likely cause concord aggro. Keeping the isk costs down well below that of what CODE would be forced to used is key to be both able to claim victory and keep these efforts easily sustainable and the ship insurance is essential to that.

Can I just ask: is the intention of this to just sit in an asteroid belt doing nothing, on the off chance that code warp in and fly in range so you can discobomb them? If so, you definitely just failed Eve. And you've disappointed your parents.

Can I just ask: is the intention of this to just sit in an asteroid belt doing nothing, on the off chance that code warp in and fly in range so you can discobomb them? If so, you definitely just failed Eve. And you've disappointed your parents.

If you are seriously trying to get some gankers killed you don't want a tanked ship. Gankers know full well what they can and can't kill.

If you want to take it too gankers you want a jucy bait ship and a way to get said bait ship out of harm's way once you've aggro'ed the gankers.

Things to know about gankers.
- they have scout ships that go ahead of them. Learn to spot these.
- They typically only swap to the gank toons once they have a target.
- CODE likes to concordekken a rookie ship a few minutes before a gank in order to get some more time before concord intervention. Knowing this is a good way to spot a impending hit.
- gank toons typically have terrible security ratings and as such spend minimal time in space, they will probably be warping to target within seconds of undocking/entering system. Also as they have terrible security status you should be able to hit them without concord repercussion even if they haven't aggressed. However you have to catch them.
- lock time is everything.
- catalysts have insane dps but their optimal is horrid.


If you truly want to kill some gankers this is my recommendation
1) get a couple of accomplices preferably ones that can fly a t3d as these are best for killing catalysts
2) have a coveter mining in some belt. you want this coveter to be in a belt that is as far as possible from any stations or gates. (maximize the time the catalysts have to spend in warp heading to target)
3) coveter should be sitting aligned. The accomplices should be sitting in a safe spot outside of dscan range from and gates or stations.
4) have coveter start accelerating the moment the catalyst gankers appear in local. (they will have terrible standing)
5) Have the accomplices warp to covetor a couple seconds after the gankers appear in local.
6) when the catalysts are within 5-6 AU the covetor should warp out.
6) The accomplices point and kill the catalysts the moment they appear on grid.

Note this entire plan assumes that the catalysts are -5 or below. Which most of gankers I've seen are. This also assumes that the accomplices are warping from a location closer than where the gankers are coming from since the accomplices need to be on grid before the gankers are.

Code don't gank for profit, or to show profitable kill mails, or anything like that. They do it cos they are idiots. They make claims about generating content, or saving the game by making hi sec more interesting, or some other tripe, but they are basically just after easy kills. Reference their alliance tournament failure: they were given a challenge so they gave up. But on the subject of ganking you, they will try to prevent you mining just because they can and want to. As such, if you present them a tougher target, they will just bring more ships. You are basically just gimping your own game by not trying to make as much money as you like. Don't get me wrong, a well tanked procurer or skiff will delay a gank, but if they see you and think you're playing the game in a way they don't you to, they will come at you.

But don't even THINK about buying one of their stupid permits. We don't need to encourage these morons.